Comments on: Why tunneling BT over ssh is a bad thing ™ http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/ techno tips and tricks Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:34:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lennart http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-2587 Lennart Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:26:10 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-2587 You guys. whining is not an evolutionary stable strategy becaues ppl will do stuff anyways (read: wont listen to whining). You guys.

whining is not an evolutionary stable strategy becaues ppl will do stuff anyways (read: wont listen to whining).

]]> By: Leishtek http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-2454 Leishtek Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:48:28 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-2454 SSH+BT = slow as $h1t experience, haven't you guys ever heard of "Internet cafe" before? Or maybe hijack someone's WiFi (f*cking h4ck3rzz LOLz) & then put the liability on them? There's always a solution to a problem, if you think like a THIEF...er, cop. SSH+BT = slow as $h1t experience, haven’t you guys ever heard of “Internet cafe” before? Or maybe hijack someone’s WiFi (f*cking h4ck3rzz LOLz) & then put the liability on them? There’s always a solution to a problem, if you think like a THIEF…er, cop.

]]> By: Chiron613 http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-1781 Chiron613 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:59:05 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-1781 Mshade, I'm afraid your comments about what should be ordinary courtesy were met with foolish aggression. I agree with you - using SSH with torrents is a Bad Thing. It would be rude if you did it through someone else's servers. Those rude comments about your post were uncalled for and simply unacceptable. IMNSHO, anyway... Mshade, I’m afraid your comments about what should be ordinary courtesy were met with foolish aggression. I agree with you – using SSH with torrents is a Bad Thing. It would be rude if you did it through someone else’s servers.

Those rude comments about your post were uncalled for and simply unacceptable. IMNSHO, anyway…

]]> By: Spazzzzzzzz http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-1768 Spazzzzzzzz Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:57:07 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-1768 There already is encryption on most bt programs. I am unsure why it isnt satisfactory...makes you wonder why its there in the first place. I believe for it to work properly everyone has to enable it...and people dont or are too lazy. I use TOR to proxy my trackers...works great...havent had AT&T until just recently tho and have yet to try it again. I had cable before I moved and never had any issues. Im trying not to bt tho..instead, Im using phazeddl.com and dling off of rapidshare. You cant get caught and you wont be throttled. Problem solved. There already is encryption on most bt programs. I am unsure why it isnt satisfactory…makes you wonder why its there in the first place. I believe for it to work properly everyone has to enable it…and people dont or are too lazy.

I use TOR to proxy my trackers…works great…havent had AT&T until just recently tho and have yet to try it again. I had cable before I moved and never had any issues.

Im trying not to bt tho..instead, Im using phazeddl.com and dling off of rapidshare. You cant get caught and you wont be throttled. Problem solved.

]]> By: Gorgor http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-1739 Gorgor Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:22:27 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-1739 Cumcast and other ISPS should just let us use bandwidth...I mean...that's what we pay for right? Well, If I want to use 2 MB or 3000 TB, I fucking have the fucking right, and these corporate whores need to foot the fucking bill. America's not a free nation, it's a fat asshole breeding corp cunt society that's gonna get it's fair share of death, since most everything mankind does is gay and stupid and wrong....so what's wrong with a little itsy bitsy bandwith? STOP THE THROTTLING GAYFEST! ... Oh yeah, I agree about not using SSH cuz that's just stupid. I can't fucking wait till peer obvoscated incryption is implemented....see how the corporate cunt likes that?!!! HEHEHEHEHEHE! Cumcast and other ISPS should just let us use bandwidth…I mean…that’s what we pay for right? Well, If I want to use 2 MB or 3000 TB, I fucking have the fucking right, and these corporate whores need to foot the fucking bill. America’s not a free nation, it’s a fat asshole breeding corp cunt society that’s gonna get it’s fair share of death, since most everything mankind does is gay and stupid and wrong….so what’s wrong with a little itsy bitsy bandwith? STOP THE THROTTLING GAYFEST! … Oh yeah, I agree about not using SSH cuz that’s just stupid. I can’t fucking wait till peer obvoscated incryption is implemented….see how the corporate cunt likes that?!!! HEHEHEHEHEHE!

]]> By: carpe http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-753 carpe Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:01:04 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-753 OP is correct that people should not be abusing free or limited shell accounts for bt forwarding, but this is, at least for me, a great way to get past my damn isp throttling bt traffic. Pay for a server and certain amount of bandwidth, and then use it. I like dreamhost and have been using them for about a year now. Breakdown BT over SSH via free shells = BAD BT over SSH with proportionate bandwidth you pay for = GOOD OP is correct that people should not be abusing free or limited shell accounts for bt forwarding, but this is, at least for me, a great way to get past my damn isp throttling bt traffic. Pay for a server and certain amount of bandwidth, and then use it. I like dreamhost and have been using them for about a year now.

Breakdown
BT over SSH via free shells = BAD
BT over SSH with proportionate bandwidth you pay for = GOOD

]]> By: Zomg http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-653 Zomg Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:19:46 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-653 OK... SSH is NOT the solution for it,... WHAT IS THE SOLUTION TO BYPASS COMCAST THROTTLING? is there any other way? (something free) too bad verizon fios is not offered in my area. OK… SSH is NOT the solution for it,… WHAT IS THE SOLUTION TO BYPASS COMCAST THROTTLING? is there any other way? (something free) too bad verizon fios is not offered in my area.

]]> By: subcorpus http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-564 subcorpus Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:32:06 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-564 i will not use tunnelling over ssh for my bit torrent needs ... okay ? i will not use tunnelling over ssh for my bit torrent needs …
okay ?

]]> By: Cheesecake http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-563 Cheesecake Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:01:53 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-563 mshade: I'm not certain how Sandvine and other BT throttling works - but it probably intercepts and uses tracker data to decide who the throttle hence why using a proxy to bypass the network works. Simply put - the guide doesn't make you to transmit peer-to-peer data through the shell, even if it is only one tickbox away. It's not a simple process to block BitTorrent, since it operates on numerous ports, plus you can encrypt ingoing and outgoing traffic, hence why ISPs manipulate tracker information since there's few other avenues to detect BT packets. BTW, that Whitesalad guide you point to also only sends tracker data through the proxy, check out the Azureus screenshot where it explicitly shows you to put the tracker information through the proxy. mshade: I’m not certain how Sandvine and other BT throttling works – but it probably intercepts and uses tracker data to decide who the throttle hence why using a proxy to bypass the network works. Simply put – the guide doesn’t make you to transmit peer-to-peer data through the shell, even if it is only one tickbox away. It’s not a simple process to block BitTorrent, since it operates on numerous ports, plus you can encrypt ingoing and outgoing traffic, hence why ISPs manipulate tracker information since there’s few other avenues to detect BT packets.

BTW, that Whitesalad guide you point to also only sends tracker data through the proxy, check out the Azureus screenshot where it explicitly shows you to put the tracker information through the proxy.

]]> By: James http://tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/comment-page-1/#comment-562 James Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:16:07 +0000 http://www.tipotheday.com/2007/10/15/why-tunneling-bt-over-ssh-is-a-bad-thing-tm/#comment-562 I pay for 2TB of bandwidth with my Dreamhost account. I intend to use it. I pay for 2TB of bandwidth with my Dreamhost account. I intend to use it.

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